The Horse 2020/21

Hello everybody

Here you will find our survey about glacier melt.

Thank you very much for filling it in and for sharing it.

Genti and Tiziano

Reached so far(20.Mai.2021):

• communication with Bask country
• try to talk with some ukrainian about my design of the project
• a lot ideas for my final work

Content:

• produce water
• produce oxygen
• Animals, that I`m going to have in my closed room to eat

Next steps:

• produce electricity 
• combine the whole things to an ecosystem 
• make some designs for my room 

In my spring holidays, I met a beekeeper. He's the father of a friend of mine and has a lot of experience with bee's. I interviewed him and watched him observating the bee's during their work in the beehive. I was very impressed, how his passion works and what are the dangers especially during this time in climate change. My further steps are now, to take the material together, sort out the most important informations and also check the connection to Basque Country and go further in collaboration work.

This online interview was taken the 13 May 2021 with Sanja Josi, the leader of Hydrologic Commission of the UZH

- Which concrete measures can we use to save our glaciers?

Everything that stops global warming helps to reduce glacier retreat in the long term (the adaptation period is long, however: even if we stop warming today, most glaciers will still lose a lot of mass and adapt to the rise in temperature of recent years / decades - therefore we have to act now).

- Is artificial snow the right idea to save glaciers?

No, a glacier can't be saved with artificial snow. It takes a lot of energy to make artificial snow... that would be counterproductive. I think the energy consumption for making artificial snow is obviously very high and not feasible for entire glaciers. If it is about small sections, e.g. the transition from one station to the Ski slope, then that brings something locally, but it is for entire glaciers pointless. Glaciers are climate indicators and are controlled by the climate. If the climate is "hostile to glaciers", there are no good long-term forecasts. And therefore no alternatives to reduce further warming.

- Is there any way to stop the general rise in sea levels?

If we could stop the glacial melt, so will the proportion the rise in sea level associated with glacier melt, fall away.

- What should we do with the meltwater runoff?

What are the consequences of eruptions from glacial lakes? Regarding the glacial lakes: these are questions about natural hazards that often have very local characteristics (Permafrost distribution, geometry of the glacier, ...), there are many factors that come together; as e.g. the current case in India has shown. It seems that lakes are increasingly being formed / will be in the future. The extent to which these then represent a hazard or a risk depends on many local factors.

- Are there any new reasons for the melt of glaciers?

There are actually no new reasons for the glacier melt. Knowledge is physics. But there are better data around the world for glacier distribution and ice thicknesses (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03436-z). And some things seem to be accelerating where they were until recently said it will take longer.

German version

Dieses Online-Interview wurde am 13. Mai 2021 mit Sanja Josi, der Leiterin der Hydrologischen Kommission der UZH, geführt

- Mit welchen konkreten Mitteln können wir unsere Gletscher retten?

Alles was die globale Erwärmung verringert, stoppt trägt langfristig
dazu bei den Gletscherschwund zu reduzieren (die Anpassungszeit ist allerdings lang: selbst wenn wir die Erwärmung heute stoppen, werden die meisten Gletscher noch viel Masser verlieren und sich an die Temperaturerhöhung der letzten Jahre/Jahrzehnte anpassen - daher müssen wir jetzt handeln).

- Welche Gegenmassnahmen können wir ergreifen?

Ist Kunstschnee wirklich das richtige Mittel, um Gletscher zu retten? mit Kunstschnee lässt sich kein Gletscher retten. Es braucht immens viel Energie um Kunstschnee herzustellen... das wäre kontraproduktiv.

- Ist die generelle Erhöhung des Meeresspiegels irgendwie zu stoppen?

Wenn wir die Gletscherschmelze stoppen könnten, wird auch der Anteil des Meeresspiegelanstiegs, der mit der Gletscherschmelze zusammenhängt, wegfallen.

- Was tun mit dem Schmelzwasserabfluss?

Die Eruption von Gletscherflüssen führt zu welchen Folgen? (Eruptions from glacial lakes) - zu den Gletscherseen: das sind Fragen zu Naturgefahren, die oft sehr lokale Charakteristiken haben (Permafrostverbreitung, Geometrie des Gletschers,...), hier gibt es viele Faktoren, die zusammenkommen; wie z.B. der aktuelle Fall in Indien gezeigt hat. Es scheint, dass es vermehrt zur Entstehung von Seen kommt/in Zukunft kommen wird. Inwieweit diese dann ein Gefahr oder ein Risiko darstellen, hängt von vielen lokalen Faktoren ab.

- Gibt es zu den Gründen für das Schmelzen der Gletscher neue Ergebnisse? Neben Wikipedia und anderen Websites haben wir uns über https://ecobnb.de/blog/2020/05/gletscherschmelze-gruende-folgen/ [1] darüber zu erkundigen versucht.

Zu den Gründen für die Gletscherschmelze gibt es eigentlich keine
neuen Erkenntnisse, das ist Physik. Es gibt aber weltweit bessere Daten zur Gletscherverbreitung und Eisdicken (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03436-z). Und manches scheint sich zu beschleunigen, wo man bis vor kurzem noch meinte, dass es länger dauern wird.

Genti and Tiziano

After having seen a reportage of "SRF-Dok" about "artificial snow" we try to get in contact with Mr. Felix Keller to discuss about the progress of his idea. Mr. Felix Keller is a protagonist of the reportage. Here is the link of this reportage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcndfkZ3-s.

Genti and Tiziano

[in progress]

In the two weeks of holidays, Jarno and I did quite a few things. We have worked on our website and got the basic designs. Furthermore, we found a second group from the Basque country which would like to do a cooperation with us. Their topic is noise pollution levels in cities generated by cars. Personally, I think that’s a great cooperation and also one of the benefits for the most people for e-cars!

Unfortunately, we couldn’t do as much as we wanted in these two and a half weeks, because there was a personal accident. We tried to get a test drive in a e-car, but this is quite hard. Many Resellers told us, that they won’t let a person test drive their car when they aren’t at least 25 years old. This is quite a challenge for us, as we really want to compare those different cars!

In the meanwhile, we did a lot of research! Many big cars manufactures like Toyota or Lexus did invest much money into fuel cars like e-fuel. We think that is a sign that manufacturers actually don’t believe in a „e-car only world“.

Even BMW did announce their first X5 hydrogen SUV, which will be released in mid 2022. If you want to learn more about the full hydrogen BMW SUV you can read this article: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/tech-zukunft/alternative-antriebe/bmw-i-hydrogen-next-x5-fcv-wasserstoff/

Furthermore BMW did also announce, that they have put the full electric „1er series“ on ice.

In the next weeks, we will start our German survey for cars/e-cars. The link will be posted here so everyone can participate at the survey. We already have created some provisional questions:

1. Fahren Sie ein Auto? Wenn ja welches? (Benzin, Diesel, Hybrid, elektrisch)
   1. Our goal with this question is, to know how many people allready use environmental friendly cars.
2. Können Sie auf Ihr Auto verzichten?
   1. We want to know how many people would use public transports in general.
3. Können Sie sich vorstellen ein umweltfreundlicheres Auto zu fahren?
   1. We think the potential of buying a e-car is high and want to check it.
4. Was würde es benötigen, dass Sie sich für ein umweltfreundlicheres Auto entscheiden würden?
   1. We want to see, what is needed for people to consider buying a e-car or something comparable.
5. Ist es für Sie wichtig, ein eigenes Auto zu besitzen?
   1. Maybe many people would share a car, which would be environmental friendly.
6. Ist ein Auto für Sie nur ein Fortbewegungsmittel hat es für Sie einen persönlichen Stellenwert?
   1. With this question we want to see, if cars are only a transport. If yes, those people could change to public transports in the future.
7. Falls Sie einen Benziner fahren, warum?
   1. We want to know why most people drive a patrol car right now.
8. Ist Ihnen die Leistung am Fahrzeug wichtig?
   1. This question helps us to understand, if a small car live a VW UP is an alternative for some people.
9. In welcher Alternative sehen sie die Zukunft der Automobilindustrie und warum? (Hybrid, elektrisch, wasserstoff, E-Benzin o.ä.)
   1. Here we want to check, if our researches are in comparable with the opinions.
10. Würden Sie mit einem sehr ausgebauten öffentlichen Verkehrsnetz auf ein Auto verzichten?
    1. Our final question is looking for people, who would completly change to public transports.

Livia and I got in contact with the shop "feel better than good" and we got to arrange an appointment for an interview with Miss Welti. She was very kind and friendly and we are looking forward for a good interview. We are so thankful that she is going to take some time for us and our project.

The appointment will take place on friday, 21th of may 2021 at 17.00 o'clock.

For the interview we are going to revise our questions and try to add some more.

Otherwise we have started to write our documentation and did some research.

[in progress]

w.a.: with accompaniment - mit Führung (dt.)

Mrs. Suter got in contact with the scientist Mr. Farinotti, that could maybe show us the "Aletschgletscher".

[in progress]

Genti and Tiziano

27 april 2021

In the next days, we will prepare a survey about glacier melt.

Then the general idea for our collaboration with "Team Kerala" is to show heavy results on climate change. So as reported in the last post, we will bring together our results with those of "Team Kerala". They already wrote:

23 April 2021

Today we talked with "Team Kerala" about our collaboration-plan.

We also created on WhatsApp a chat called "Team Kerala", which is used for our exchanging ourself. In the next weeks, we will have another meeting via Google. In that occasion, we will bring together the results of the surveys about glacier melt and floods.

Genti and Tiziano

We did already a brainstorming about the interview questions we want to ask some clothing stores here in Switzerland. Now we did some changes and added some more:

• What is your opinion about cheap clothes? (different opinions)
• What are the advantages and disadvantages of sustainable clothes in your opinion? (different opinions)
• What are the advantages and disadvantages of cheap clothes in your opinion? (different opinions)
• What is the meaning of your brand? (to get to know the store)
• When did you decide to create your own clothing store? (what was the main reason the store opened, what were the ideas)
• What do you think is the difference between your store to other clothing stores? / What is your opinion in general about the clothing stores in Switzerland? (different opinions)
• Where do you produce the clothes from your store? (it's interesting to see if the store owners are interested in where the clothes are produced)
• Do you know how the clothes of your store are produced? (it shows if the workers are interested in how the clothes are produced)
• What do you think about child labor? (it's interesting to see if some people are still thinkin about)
• Do you think child labor is still used today? (different opinions)
• Do you know which means of transport are used to ship the produced clothes or the material to Switzerland? (is it sustainable or not)
• Is your opinion about clothes still the same you've had in the past or was your opinion completely different? (it's interesting to see if the sustainable lifestyle was also in the past important)
• What do you think about green lifestyle? (different opinions)
• What would you recommend the clothing stores, which don't sell sustainable clothes to change because of the environment? (to get some tips)